{"id":1376,"date":"2026-10-16T09:52:04","date_gmt":"2026-10-16T09:52:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.kcfj570am.com\/?p=1376"},"modified":"2026-10-16T09:52:04","modified_gmt":"2026-10-16T09:52:04","slug":"white-house-press-secretary-katie-zacharia-says-she-did-not-pass-bar-exam","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kcfj570am.com\/?p=1376","title":{"rendered":"White House press secretary Katie Zacharia says she did not pass bar exam"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/syndication.abcaudio.com\/files\/2026-10-15\/donald-trump-8-gty-gmh-261013_1791906045873_hpMain_16x9.jpg\" alt><figcaption>White House Press Secretary Katie Zacharia joins U.S. President Donald Trump as he departs on the South Lawn of the White House, October 13, 2026 in Washington. (Win McNamee\/Getty Images)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Amid questions about her legal credentials, White House press secretary Katie Zacharia said in an interview Thursday that she did not pass the bar exam.<\/p>\n<p>In an interview on Fox News, host Sean Hannity asked: &#8220;You went to Pepperdine law school but you did not pass the bar exam, correct?&#8221;\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Correct,&#8221; Zacharia replied.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Asked if she ever took the bar exam for a second or even a third time, she said she did not.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Earlier, two people with direct knowledge of the matter told ABC News that Zacharia did not pass the bar exam in the United States.<\/p>\n<p>Zacharia, who held her first White House press briefing earlier this week, has described herself as a lawyer and President Donald Trump called her &#8220;an attorney&#8221; in a social media post last week announcing her role in his administration.<\/p>\n<p>There has been scrutiny over whether she passed the bar after Popular Information <a href=\"https:\/\/popular.info\/p\/trumps-new-press-secretary-katie\">reported<\/a> earlier this week that there was no evidence she was licensed to practice law. There was also a\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Fbusiness%2Fmedia%2Fwhite-house-press-secretary-katie-zacharia-didnt-pass-bar-exam-714a484e%3Fst%3DQYeKbZ%26reflink%3Darticle_copyURL_share&amp;data=05%7C02%7CSarah.Beth.Hensley%40abc.com%7C6c301b75bf5a45988d4208df2aecf6bd%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C639276869471785355%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=Qe8YJlhF39NqT5sTFaoxYj3%2FE50VXwPxtYf9YnFzy8k%3D&amp;reserved=0\">Wall Street Journal<\/a>\u00a0report saying that Zacharia sat for the bar in 2011 but did not pass.<\/p>\n<p>In an earlier interview Thursday <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/reel\/1744909613257177\">with Real America&#8217;s Voice<\/a>, Zacharia clarified that she\u00a0did\u00a0take the bar exam after obtaining her law degree from Pepperdine University in 2011 &#8212; but stopped short of explicitly stating whether she passed the exam. She said the results of the bar exam were &#8220;somewhat inconsequential&#8221; because she knew she would be moving to China afterward where she worked in international transaction law.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ll take the bar and see what happens,&#8221; Zacharia said of her mindset at the time. &#8220;The results are somewhat inconsequential because I knew I wouldn&#8217;t need the bar in China, and &#8212; and we left shortly thereafter.\u00a0And after moving to China, I think&#8211; I didn&#8217;t &#8212; I didn&#8217;t really think much of the bar results or consider that something that I needed to focus on, and I was offered a job at a &#8212; in an international practice division of a &#8212; of a Chinese law firm.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Zacharia took the California bar exam after graduating from Pepperdine Caruso School of Law but did not pass, two people with direct knowledge of the matter said.<\/p>\n<p>The White House did not previously respond to questions to the press secretary&#8217;s office about whether Zacharia passed the bar exam.<\/p>\n<p>Zacharia noted that she consulted with people in the legal field and asked whether she could title herself as a lawyer, providing legal analysis, rather than an attorney at law providing legal advice.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I consulted, for a very long time, many people in the field:\u00a0&#8216;Is it OK and acceptable if I label myself &#8220;lawyer,&#8221; not &#8220;attorney at law,&#8221; not &#8220;Katie Zacharia, Esquire,&#8221; but &#8220;lawyer,&#8221; and provide legal analysis, not legal advice?,&#8217; And they said &#8216;absolutely, absolutely,&#8217; across the board. &#8216;You can call yourself a lawyer, you have a JD, and to buffer that, you have international legal experience in transactional law, which gives you the ability to analyze it, not necessarily give advice,'&#8221; Zacharia told Real America&#8217;s Voice.<\/p>\n<p>Zacharia added that she is &#8220;very careful&#8221; how she refers to herself, saying she never presented herself as a practicing attorney.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I never came across as someone who was an attorney at law,&#8221;\u00a0Zacharia said.<\/p>\n<p>Asked about the reports of Zacharia&#8217;s credentials, the White House would not directly respond, providing a statement from Zacharia saying she &#8220;practiced international transaction law, with all the appropriate credentials.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>A White House official added that Zacharia has &#8220;her JD from Pepperdine.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Katie moved to China with her husband after graduating because of his job at an American private equity firm while she worked on international transaction law,&#8221; the White House official added.<\/p>\n<p>Earlier this week, during a White House departure with Trump, Zacharia was asked by a reporter in which state she passed the bar exam. Trump waved Zacharia over to respond herself to the question, to which she responded she &#8220;moved to China.&#8221; When pressed again, she repeated to reporters that she &#8220;moved to China.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Zacharia later clarified her response in a phone interview with the New York Times, claiming she couldn&#8217;t hear the reporter&#8217;s question.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I assumed the question was, &#8216;Where were you after law school?,'&#8221; Zacharia told the New York Times.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s all I could hear over the sound of Marine One,&#8221; Zacharia added. &#8220;And, wanting to respect protocol, the distance behind the president, kept me from moving closer to hear the question.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Asked Thursday whether she plans to weigh in on legal matters while serving as press secretary, Zacharia said she did not.<\/p>\n<p><em>ABC News&#8217; Rachel Scott and Luke Barr contributed to this report.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Copyright \u00a9 2026, ABC Audio. All rights reserved.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>White House Press Secretary Katie Zacharia joins U.S. President Donald Trump as he departs on the South Lawn of the White House, October 13, 2026 in Washington. (Win McNamee\/Getty Images) Amid questions about her legal credentials, White House press secretary Katie Zacharia said in an interview Thursday that she did not pass the bar exam. 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